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Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby Prof » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:51 pm

Attached are a few Maps of the proposed new Marine Park areas to be considered, I think they have gone too far this time so get in and have your say, sign the petition to stop the Marine parks, let you local memeber know that you are very concerned for the future of your community, it will impact on all walks of life, tourism, caravan parks, motels, the fishing industry as a whole, it will mean we will have to import more fish to sustain the demand for seafood, and we know where most of the imports come from...Phew...I wouldn't eat it!!

Some of the files are large and I apologise, but this issue is also huge so you will have to put up with it.



nrsmpa.jpg


afas-map.pdf


east marine region assessment.pdf


fs-afa.pdf


fs-coral-sea.pdf


fs-developments-mapnetwork.pdf
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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby pink nipper » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:57 pm

For mine the entire thing sounds like a total waste of time and money. :think:

Last year we had a huge oil spill off the westy coast of Australia and this year we had a ship run aground on the reef spilling more oil. Over in America they have got more oil in the sea than water at the moment. :shock:

If it means money you can get away with murder, literally, while the small man, the humble fisherman get's the shaft.... :sad:

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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby squidgie » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:53 am

i was at the meeting held on the 16th June at the Fisherman's Co-op which a representative of the Minister Garretts office out lined what was about to become law now by law i mean we were told there will be Marine Reserves in these areas and there will be no take areas and fish areas in this reserve but the BIG BUT IS we have to tell him or his rep were we fish ie reefs, pins, or favorite fishing spot and what we need to keep as fish able areas for us be it Pro or REC FISHER, I have a major prob with this as we have already done this several times and every time we do THEY SHYT IN OUR FACES they close or spots and we are not allowed to fish them again,also we have to have it done before July so they can have draft plan out by January 2011 and have Marine Reserves up and running by 2012,

THIS IS A LOAD OF BULL SHYT WE ARE ONCE AGAIN BEING SCREWED BY A LABOR GOVERNMENT FOR GREEN PREFERENCE VOTES,


WHY DO WE NEED MARINE PARKS OR WHY MORE, WE ALREADY HAVE MORE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD YES THAT ANYONE IN THE WORLD.

ARE OR BAG AND QUOTA AND IN POSSESION LAWS NOT WORKING IF NOT TIGHTEN THEM UP.

WHO IS GOING TO POLICE THESE NEW PARKS.

QUESTION WERE ASKED ARE OUR FISH STOCK DWINDLING ANSWER NO THEN WHY THE HELL MORE MARINE PARKS

MINISTER GARRETT IS A GREEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE HE DOES NOT REPRESENT THE COMMON MAN NOR DOES THE LABOR PARTY THEY HAVE LOST THERE WAY,

EVERY LABOR PARTY IN EVERY STATE HAVE MADE US VOTERS PAY BY GIVING THE GREENS WHAT THEY WANT FOR PREFERENCE VOTES AND THAT IS MARINE PARKS

WE NEED TO MAKE A STAND ENOUGH IS ENOUGH PISS THESE MONGRELS OF THEY WILL KILL THE AUSTRALIAN WAY OF LIFE.

Im not sure if you guy's realize the ripple effect this will have it will start as far away as Japan, China, America and so on this is were we sores of fishing tackle from there it's container ships all the way to our docks jobs lost, all the way from there to importers, tackle shops, garages, the humble pie shop were i buy my pie and drink before i set out to sea JOBS LOST hundreds of thousands of people either directly or indirectly affected this is major blow to a lot of industries and all because ONE MAN CAN YIELD A BIG STICK HOW THE HELL CAN ONE MAN DESTROY A SOCIAL WAY OF LIFE YES ONE MAN MINISTER BLOODY GARRETT AN AGING ROCK STAR WANNABE COME POLITICIAN


FISHING IS THE MOST FAMILY PARTICIPATED SPORT IN THE WORLD AND THIS DICKHEAD HAS JUST ABOUT TO DESTROY MOST FISHERS LIVES "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":( "":(

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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby Scizz » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:47 pm

ime to sell the fishing gear and take up another sport.

HUNTING

not wild life but POLITICIANS "":( "":( "":(
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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby Sim1 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:39 pm

Yep, sell the rods, buy some guns and hunt some greenies! We can call ourselfs northcoastpolihunters.com! ::))
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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby maxi » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:14 pm

on the question of who is going to police these parks ... ???

i drove past tornado point this morning at 7 am and there was 2 bodies fishing out the front of the reef on the low tide ... :shock:


i must have a look at the signage in the carparks as to where you can fish or not. not to mention if it is clear, decisive, and easily read and interpreted by anyone who wishes to fish our fabulous coastline ..... :think: :think:

if they make these no fishing zones it is a complete waste of all resources if there is no person to enforce and educate people on the laws ... :problem: :shock: :think:

they cant rely on a threat imposed on the "joe average" angler to make it work without thorough enforcement imposed ... impossible in this day and age to rely on a threat . .... ::" :silent:


yep garret would have to go down as the biggest turncoat to the aussie way of life in our short history.....

talk and listen to the people u represent Peter ... u may learn something ....
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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby Feral » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:55 am

Why?
Labor are desperate for the Green vote in the upcoming federal election.Expect to be absolutely flogged.
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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby Blackant » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:01 pm

THE PREFERENCE VOTE. What a load of cod's wallop. You vote for a party and in comes this load of crap.

Carrot - that's his name isn't, wouldn't know what side is UP.

Global warming - KRUDD and his suckass didn't get there way and it's on the back burner. Another load of cod's wallop.

What's the fine or jail term for not paying the fine.

I'M NOT WASTING MY TIME COME THE NEXT ELECTION. I'M GOING FISHING. Come visit.

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Re: Proposed new Marine Parks......Why ??????

Postby Prof » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:27 am

“Conservation through sustainable use. Making people part of the solution”
“The voice of NSW recreational fishers”
Web site: www.ecofishers.com

BRIEF SUMMARY – BENNETT & ATTWOOD STUDIES.

Two studies by Bennett & Attwood, cited by the MPA in their “Science Papers,” were deliberately and totally misrepresented. These studies were used by the MPA as justification for “locking – up” large expanses of ocean beaches, to exclude commercial and family recreational fishers, in their marine parks.

The Bennett & Attwood studies referred to were focussed upon fishing techniques and the statistical indicator of fish abundance called “catch per unit effort” (CPUE.) They also attempted to assess the effectiveness of closing areas, where “the shore is a mixture of sandy beach and rock platform, not an open sandy beach as stated by the MPA in their so called “Science Paper.”

Bennett and Attwood actually studied ten (10) fish species, not six (6) as stated by the MPA in their Science Paper.

The CPUE of only six of the ten species were higher in the “locked-up area.” (The site of the study area, the De Hoop Sanctuary, is 46 km long.)

Of the MPA’s misrepresented six species, the two most prominent, (90% of their samples) are totally reef dependent sedentary species, not found in an open surf beach habitat!

Of the remaining four species, (of the MPA’s six,) even one more specimen is described by scientists as being a sedentary reef dwelling specimen, not normally found along open sandy beaches!



That leaves three species remaining of the studied ten. And scientists describe the habitats of two of the remaining three, as rocky shores!

So only one of the six species “selected” by the MPA, has a habitat described as “over sandy beaches.”

Therefore, the results from only one (1) of the six (6) species “selected” by the MPA, is truly relevant to the evaluation of the effects of total fishing closures on sandy beach areas, such as would normally be consistent with “fished beaches.”

Further, only two of the ten species examined in this study are highly migratory (Mulloway and Tailor,) and neither demonstrated any benefit from protection in the De Hoop Sanctuary! All NSW recreationally targeted species (Tailor, Bream, Flathead, Whiting, Snapper, Mulloway etc,) are all migratory. They’ve got tails. They swim!

Bennett & Attwood add a third specimen to this group and state, “The catch rates of the same three species did not increase, following the declaration of the marine reserve (sanctuary) because they are highly migratory!”

Why was this key and crucial information deliberately omitted from the MPA’s Science Paper?

These deliberate omissions clearly constitute scientific fraud.

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